Doves:I thought that Frank Molver did SUCH a great job relating to the "sameness
of type" of America's relationship to God and that of Israel that I will use his
words. Please read this parable of "the 4 years" and then read what Frank
has to say. I went back to an earlier post and resurrected some numerical
info and some signs that seem to fit both America and Israel (the Jews):Luke 13
6 Then he told this parable: "A man had a fig tree, planted in his
vineyard, and he went to look for fruit on it, but did not find any.
7 So he said to the man who took care of the vineyard, 'For THREE
YEARS NOW I've been coming to look for fruit on this fig tree and
haven't found any. CUT IT DOWN! Why should it use up the soil?'
8 " 'Sir,' the man replied, 'leave it alone for ONE MORE YEAR,
and I'll dig around it and fertilize it.FROM:
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/apr2004/frankm427.htm.....the thing that bothers me is that some are not offended or upset at
the depth of sin we (the U.S.) have fallen into. They will state we are not
as bad as other nations. That is partly true, yet for example, we are the
number one producers of pornography in the world, America. That is
just one point. So why are we different? I would say we are held to a
higher standard because we claim to be a Christian nation. Our money
says in God we trust and we pledge allegiance to a nation under God,
and once upon a time we were a Godly nation. Like the Jewish nation
we are held at a higher standard. When we claim to belong to God yet
we say he will not hold us accountable we are deluded. His Name is
being cursed by those who are not his people because of the actions
of some of us who claim to be his. This is just like Israel of old. In
Ezekial 9 the Lord tells some angels to mark the foreheads of those who
weep and wail for the sins of the nation. These were the ones to
be spared during judgment. It was only a small number then and it is
still the same now.Why did God allow us to be attacked, surely it was a warning. Was it
heeded? Only for a short time. Why did God allow the Muslims to do it?
That's a good question. Probably not much differently than allowing the
Babylonians to attack Israel.The question is, are we grieved by the sin of America, or are we just
used to it and ignore it? I hope I have not become insensitive to the
Holy Spirit by ignoring his warnings.God bless Frank.
FROM:
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/jan2004/calvinm112-2.htmThis is some information that "could" relate to a 12 midnight as I
described in "WHAT IF WE HAVE "PASSED" MIDNIGHT???"Time calculation
From: Wednesday, December 22, 1999 (final 1900's Full Moon)
to: Monday, December 1, 2003 (12/01 or 12:00 MIDNIGHT?!)
It is 1440 days between those dates.
4 X 360 (a "Jewish" year) = 1440Of course, the number, 1440, JUST "RINGS" WITH 12's!!!
VERY POSSIBLY THE INTENT OF GOD...12 MIDNIGHT!!!
1440 is the product of 12 X 12 X 10. The number "10" means
completion of a cycle.The Biblical Numerics explanation of these is as follows:
144 = God's remnant; The Spirit guided life.
12 = Governmental authority; Governmental perfection;
Learning from the Overseer.To me, this "SOUNDS LIKE THE 144,000" who will be "sealed"
just after our rapture. In Revelation 7 it shows the raptured
saints in heaven (verses 9-17) while down on earth the 144,000
are being sealed by the Holy Spirit for their new work (verses 1-8).Why start from December 22, 1999? This was the VERY LAST
full moon of the 1900's and VERY RARE!!! If God were going to
speak something about a "4 YEAR BEGINNING", it would be fitting
to use such a SUPER BRIGHT FULL MOON!!!!!
http://www.astroleague.org/al/news/moon/brimoon.html
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap991222.html
http://www.people.virginia.edu/~pm9k/59/other/newsd99.html
http://www.almanac.com/preview2000/lunar.html
"In laymen's terms, it will be a super bright full moon, much more
than the usual AND it hasn't happened this way for 133 years!
Our ancestors 133 years ago saw this. Our descendants 100 or
so years from now will see this again. Remember this will happen
December 22, 1999."Perhaps these DISASTERS ("CUT IT DOWN!" below in Luke 13)
were put off for the "4" years which began on December 22, 1999!!!
PERHAPS WE "HAVE" ALREADY STRUCK MIDNIGHT!!!!!Luke 13
6 Then he told this parable: "A man had a fig tree, planted in his
vineyard, and he went to look for fruit on it, but did not find any.
7 So he said to the man who took care of the vineyard, 'For THREE
YEARS NOW I've been coming to look for fruit on this fig tree and
haven't found any. CUT IT DOWN! Why should it use up the soil?'
8 " 'Sir,' the man replied, 'leave it alone for ONE MORE YEAR,
and I'll dig around it and fertilize it.What's interesting to me about the "4 year scenario" of the above parable, is
that, when using the "Jewish" 360 day year and counting 4 years, we
come to December 1, 2003, the "possible" MIDNIGHT date which, when
adding 153 (meaning "net" or "harvest") we come to May 1, 2004.When using the Gregorian calendar, and adding 4 years from that date, we
have the STRONG sign of the California earthquake which occurred
EXACTLY 4 years later - December 22, 2003!!! These are signs, seemingly,
are for BOTH JEWS AND GENTILES (represented by America)!!!Time calculation
From: Monday, December 1, 2003 (MIDNIGHT???; ends 4 "Jewish" years)
to: Saturday, May 1, 2004
It is 152 days between those dates
153 inclusively or 153 from Nov. 30, 2003Time calculation
From: Wednesday, December 22, 1999
to: Monday, December 22, 2003 (CA Earthquake; ends 4 ''Gentile" years)
It is 1461 days between those dates
365.25 X 4 = 1461Another interesting number:
Time calculation
From: Saturday, January 23, 1999 [Bootes ("He cometh") gamm-ray]
to: Saturday, May 1, 2004
It is 1925 days between those dates
55 X 5 X 7 = 192555 = Hebrew gematria for "bride"
5 = grace
7 = spiritual completionGOD BLESS!!!
Calvin
P.S.:
Dave zapped me back this letter which REALLY sums up the importance
of "4 years"!!!!! THANKS DAVE!!!!!Calvin & Guys-
Here's the OT "version" of the 4 years of the parable -
Lev.19.23-25 And when ye shall come into the land, and shall have
planted all manner of trees for food, then ye shall count the fruit thereof
as uncircumcised: three years shall it be as uncircumcised unto you:
it shall not be eaten of. 24 But in THE FOURTH YEAR all the fruit thereof
shall be holy to praise the Lord withal. 25 And in the fifth year shall ye
eat of the fruit thereof, that it may yield unto you the increase thereof:
I am the Lord your God.- and it provides the needed interpretation!
In the parable, in the 4th year, the Master returns to seek out His fruit.
Likewise, God declares that ALL the fruit of the 4th year is to be HIS
"firstfruits" offering!But what happens if He DOES NOT find any fruit?
Hint: Jesus ALREADY answered this one for us (and note that it was in
the 4th year of HIS ministry!):Mark 11.13-14 And seeing a fig tree afar off having leaves, he came,
if haply he might find any thing thereon: and when he came to it, he
found nothing but leaves; for the time of figs was not yet. And Jesus
answered and said unto it, No man eat fruit of thee hereafter for ever.
And his disciples heard it.OOPSIE !!
-Dave