Chuck said, “Dave and Obadiah, you may disagree with me but I was thinking it isn’t so far fetched to me, what Greg believes. You realize that the lawless one is a member the African American version of Skull & Bones called The Boele. It has been documented they use homosexual trysts as initiation ceremonies. I’m sure Dave can find them on the internet.”
Stuart smirked, “Is that like the song, “Wooly bully”? You know, wooly bully… wooly bully?”
“No,” said Chuck, “Not related.” Chuck turned his attention back to Dave. “Can you find it?”
“Well, let’s see,” said Dave. “Chuck, you’re going to have to type that in because I don’t know how to spell it. Thanks. Here we go.”
“Everyone can read over my shoulder,” said Dave.
Dave continued, “You’re right, Chuck. It’s just like you said. I guess my mind says you’re right but my heart just doesn’t want to accept it.”
“Well, think of it this way,” said Chuck. “Remember back on July 24, 2008 when the lawless one put a written prayer into the wailing wall apparently for public consumption where he asks for help to guard against pride and despair.”
“Hey, let me find it,” said Dave. “Here it is.”
“I was thinking,” continued Chuck, that pride is the one sin that took down satan as he wanted to be higher than God. And now he is in despair because God has told satan as an immortal being that cannot die, that he will be cast forever into the lake of fire. If that wasn’t something to despair about, I don’t know what would be. That leads to satan trying to get God to change his mind, have compassion, forgive him for his sins. And if he can’t do that, bring man down with him. Remember, it was satan in the garden that brought down Adam and Eve. But I don’t think Eve being seduced by the forbidden fruit and Adam sinning with the same forbidden fruit was talking about some fruit on a tree. No, I think this was talking about sexual sin. And with satan no less. There was an excellent study on the matter on “The Open Scroll” website. Dave, maybe you can find it. I believe it’s called something about who is Cain’s father.”
Dave searched the website and brought up:
Everyone crowded around Dave and read over his shoulders. It took them a little while to get through the first part.
Dave said, “This is talking about the original sin being sexual sin. This makes much more sense than the arbitrary fruit tree in the forest idea. This is the same sin that caused God to wipe out mankind except for Noah in the flood. And the sin that caused God to have the Israelites wipe out the nephilim in the promised land. Let me look up the number of the word “nephilim”. Hey, it’s 221 which is 13 times 17. Why am I not surprised. However, I have no reason to think the lawless one is a nephilim.”
“I don’t either,” said Chuck.
“He doesn’t look much like his dad to me,” said Evelyn.
“Regardless,” said Chuck, “I just wanted to point out that sexual sin in the west wing as the abomination of bareness. Did I just say bareness? Sorry. Freudian slip. Guess that fits too though. Anyway, excuse me, the abomination of barrenness, may not be as far fetched as you think. “What do you think Mr. AC will do when this comes to light,” said
“Divert attention away from it,” said Stuart. “That’s what I’d do. That’s what Mr. Bill did.”
“Yea,” said Evelyn. “Who was it we bombed?”
“It interesting,” said Dave, “that the Bible verse follows this with a warning for those in
Judeato flee to the mountains.”
But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in
Judaeaflee to the mountains: Mark 13:14
“Although,” continued Dave. “There is no denying that the Romans came the first time and had
surrounded in 68 AD. It was only because of Nero’s death on June 9th that Vespasian took his armies and left to go back to Jerusalem where he was able to become Emperor. And this gave many Christians time to flee Rome . If it wasn’t for Jesus warning them, they wouldn’t have fled and they would have perished along with the millions in Jerusalem in 70 AD when Vespasian’s son Titus was sent to finish the job. We can’t discount this.” Jerusalem
“However,” said Chuck, “All of futurism, the seven year tribulation, the antichrist committing the abomination of desolation in the middle, is based on history repeating itself. We believe there are dual meanings. We believe there are dual fulfillments. I’ll read from Luke because I think it has more details. Maybe it is given in two different Gospels because of the dual meanings. There are dual comings of Christ. Anyway, here it is.”
And when ye shall see
compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh. Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto. For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled. But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people. And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled. Luke 21:20-24 Jerusalem
“As we know,” continued Chuck. “
was trodden down by the Gentiles until it was re-taken over by the Jews as of June 7, 1967. So in these five verses we cover 1900 years. But let me go back to the Gospel of Mark. Jerusalem
But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in
Judaeaflee to the mountains: Mark 13:14
“I don’t know if the
United Statesis going to bomb Judea or whether Judeais just generic or symbolic, to mean someplace else, but if history repeats itself, we could definitely be bombing someone.”
Chuck said, “And to tie this all together. When you think of satan being first guilty of the sin of pride and man first being guilty of sexual sin, it all fits. And it says that satan was a murderer from the beginning for a reason. Dave, if you please, the Bible verse.”
Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. John 8:44
“Thanks Dave,” continued Chuck. “But the beginning of what? Obviously, satan cannot murder other immortal beings. But he can murder human beings. And the first human being to be murdered was Abel. So if this was from the beginning, then satan would have murdered Abel through his son, Cain. And there are many that think the mark that was placed on Cain is the Mark of the Beast. How appropriate.”
Dave said, “Well, you’ve given me something to think about.”
Obadiah said, “Me too, although I’ve been thinking. Just among ourselves, we have a mountain of circumstantial evidence pointing to the identity of the lawless one. But that’s just it. We’re just among ourselves. We could be viewed as “preaching to the choir”. Of course we don’t see anything wrong with the evidence. So, if you all don’t mind, I’d like to play devil’s advocate and see if I can’t punch some holes in the evidence.”
“Interesting choice of words,” said Stuart. “Devil’s advocate indeed.”
“Well, what do you say?” asked Obadiah.
“I’m game,” said Chuck.
“So am I,” said Dave.
“Well, let’s get started,” said Obadiah. “I was thinking about how the lawless one used all those group hypnosis techniques to deceive so many people. However, the Bible says it will be God who sends the strong delusion, not the lawless one. Dave, can you find the verse?”
Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: II Thessalonians 2:;9-11
“Thanks,” Obadiah continued, “See it was God who sent the strong delusion, not the lawless one. And another thing, that survey we looked at where 21% of the people in
thought he was or could be the antichrist. First off, they didn’t give them any other choices. Who knows who else could have gotten 21%? Those 79% that were left could have voted for someone else if they were given the opportunity.” New Jersey
Dave responded, “You can’t prove anything by supposition as to how someone might have responded. You need some real hard evidence. You need to stick to how people actually responded.”
“Fair enough,” said Obadiah. “But give me a break, I’m just warming up.”
“I was also thinking about how we extrapolated the results over the whole
. And then we considered it conservative because United States voted mainly for “my client”. However, this poll was almost a year after the vote. How can we extrapolate this way? New Jersey
said, “Maybe the ones who voted for him are the ones who now most feel duped or hypnotized by him? Remember that article about all those documented Milton Erickson hypnotizing techniques he used. Turn the page of the ballot, hand signal at key hypnotic moments of holding a pen, not asking for peoples vote but telling them he will be the next president.” Virginia
“Well, let me pull up the survey again,” said Dave.
Continued Dave, “Looking at the survey, there was a higher percentage of Republicans and Conservatives that thought he was or could be the lawless one.”
“But also look,” said Obadiah, “there was a very large percentage of Hispanics who thought he was or could be at 42%. That’s twice the regular average of 21%. That’s massive!”
“That really is unexpected to me also,” said
“That’s because Hispanics,” continued Obadiah, “according to what it says here, voted way above the average for my client.”
“Let’s just check that out to be sure,” said Dave, searching for 2008 Hispanic voter results. “Well, I’ll be, look at that number.”
“Let me guess,” said Chuck without looking. “66.6% of Hispanics voted for him.”
“Well,” said Dave. “It does say two to one, which technically should be 66.6%. But it rounds it off to 67%.”
“Back to my client,” said Obadiah.
“Okay,” said Dave. “I’ll concede we may have overstated the number. Actually I’ll concede there is a greater margin of error that is unknown. What else do you have?”
“Well,” said Obadiah. “I was thinking of the number of his name. That is one of the key things everybody looks at. Dave, Could you pull that up just to refresh our memory?”
Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six. Revelation 13:18
Continued Obadiah, “We discussed many ways needing wisdom and understanding to derive 666 from my client’s name. But isn’t that the point? Whose wisdom? Whose understanding? And who else did we look at?”
Dave said, “Remember how we talked about the original Bible text sentences are all supposedly divisible by 7? And how those supposedly sealed by God are divisible by 8? And how those supposedly sealed unto satan are divisible by 13? I think it’s pretty devastating to “your client” that not only is his first name divisible by 13, but his middle name, and his father’s last name, which he goes by, and even his mother’s given last name. Here let me pull up the number calculator just to verify.”
“See, the number of his first name is 117 which is 13 times 9. And, let’s see, his middle name is 572 which is 13 times 44. And, the last name he goes by is 104 which is 13 times 8, for a total of 793 which is 13 times 61. And then his mother’s given last name, really his last name at birth as his mother wasn’t married, is 403 which is 13 times 31.”
“Yes,” said Obadiah. “But I’ve seen other contenders also being divisible by 13. As you probably know, the Roman Catholic Church has been a main contender for many years. All the
at one time or another pointed to her. And since the word “Catholic” is the word “Universal” when you translate it into English, let’s use that word instead. So, please try “ Protestant Churches ”, if you don’t mind. Roman Universal Church
Dave typed in, “
” and announced, “It comes to 1638 which is 13 times 126. Yes, Obadiah, you don’t have to point it out. I noticed the number 126 which has the same digits as 216.” Roman Universal Church
“Yes,” said Obadiah. “But I’m not finished. Try, “The Prophet Mohammad”, if you don’t mind?”
Dave typed the title and name in and said, “Okay, “The Prophet Mohammad” comes to 910 which is 13 times 70. But I suspect you already knew this. ”
“You are correct,” said Obadiah, “See, my job is only to cast doubt in the jury’s mind and my job is done.”
“You forget,” said Dave, “that his title of President also is divisible by 13. Let’s see, with President we have 533 which is 13 time 41.”
“I didn’t forget,” said Obadiah, “But did you forget that his complete title ends with “of the
”? Type that in.” United States of America
“That’s fair,” said Dave, “and we have 1668 which is 12 times 139. You win one. It’s not divisible by 13.”
Evelyn had been rather silent chimed in, “Why not just try just the title of the country? You, know, “
United States of America” or just “ ”?” United States
“Okay, let’s see,” said Dave, “neither one is divisible by 13. Let me try other countries. I can look up the largest by population and try them first.”
Continued Dave, “Let’s see, No. 1 China equals 71 which is not divisible by 13, No. 2 India 73, neither is it. We already tried No. 3 United States. Okay, No. 4
Indonesia288, no, No. 5 Brazil932, no, No. 6 451, no, No. 7 Bangladesh 208, yes, although it is also divisible by the number 8 which makes it ambiguous. That brings us to No. 8 Nigeria 171, no, No. 9 Russia 600, no, and No. 10 Japan 132, no. Then there’s No. 11 Mexico 717, no, No. 12 Philippines 460, no, No. 13 Pakistan , 705, no, No. 14 Germany 893, no, No. 15 Ethiopia 362, no.” Vietnam
“Why don’t we try a different approach?” asked Evelyn. “This one doesn’t seem to be getting us anyplace.”
“Well it is letting us know which ones it isn’t,” said Dave.
“Yeah,” said Stuart, “Sort of like
Edisonand the lightbulb. He found a thousand ways that didn’t work and each experiment was a success as it told him what didn’t work.”
Obadiah said, “Some people say the little horn will arise out of the Western European Union as it has 10 member states.”
Dave said, “I found it. They have
Belgium, no, Luxembourg, no, France, no, Netherlands, no, Germany, no, Portugal, no, Greece, no, Spain, no, Italy, no, and the , no. None of them are divisible by 13. United Kingdom
“Maybe he’s going to be global president?” said Evelyn. “You know, we have possibly global warming, possibly global thermonuclear war, and definitely global disasters. The
United Statescould be considered to have taken up where left off in controlling, assisting, policing most of the world, wouldn’t that make him a global president? I mean, we are looked at for leadership.” Rome
“Okay,” said Dave, “Give me “global”. Well, good choice Evelyn. The word global is 130 which is pretty obvious it is 13 times 10. In fact, using the old rule that zero’s can be ignored, as zero is only a placeholder and even the concept of zero did not supposedly exist till the 9th century…”
“We get the point,” said Stuart.
“Well,” said Dave, “we are then left for the word “global” with 13.”
“I guess that one could argue,” said Chuck, “that either the lawless one has already come into his “global” kingdom, or he has not. That he will take over “global” leadership sometime in the future. I’ve heard remarked that he appears to have not gotten off the campaign trail. That each position he holds he uses it to springboard him to the next higher position. With the
dollar headed for collapse, thanks in no small part to the lawless one, even though the dollar has been the reserve global currency, it could bring the whole world economy to its knees. It has been said that when the United States sneezes, the world catches a cold. When all this happens, who better to step in and serve as global leader?” United States
“Heaven help us,” said Evelyn.
“Hopefully we will all be raptured out of here before that all happens,” said
“But in the mean time,” said Chuck, “the Bible does give us clues as to what could be the country of origin of the lawless one. So we can also look at them. Although some of them are not as straightforward as others.”
“I’m game,” said Dave.
“Then why don’t you try
Assyria?” asked Chuck.
Assyriadoesn’t exist,” said Dave.
Chuck continued, “It did when much of the Old Testament was written that had prophecies regarding the lawless one. One could hardly expect the Bible to say the lawless one would be a Kenyan when
Kenyadidn’t exist as a separate country apart from Assyria. There are many that believe the one in the Bible labeled the Assyrian is none other than the lawless one. And they use Bible verses to back them up. And they believe the lawless one will be born at the headwaters of the Nile. And guess what, Lake Victoria is at the headwaters of the Nile. And the lawless one’s grandmother is on record as saying she was present at the birth of him, in Kogelo, Kenya, which just happens to be at the headwaters right after the water exits Lake Victoria. And the Assyrian empire extended all the way to the headwaters of the Nile. Here I’ve got the references in my notes.”
“Let me pull that up,” said Dave.
“Wow,” said Evelyn as she read from the reference.
After a while Dave said, “Okay, you’ve convinced me. Let me try
Assyria. It comes to 1001, which is 13 times 77. What are the odds?”
“While we’re at it,” said Stuart. “Why don’t you put in the town where he was born. What was it?”
“Kogelo,” said Dave. “And the answer is… Drum roll please. 182 which is 13 times 14.”
“Pretty darn amazing,” said
“It looks like I’m really loosing my case,” said Obadiah. “Although, I think I’ve raised some doubt whether the word global refers to the influence of the
or some future government.” United States
“Let’s not forget
Babylonin describing modern day ,” said Chuck. “The descriptions of future United States Babylonin the Bible sure sound like the . Remember the United States towerof Babelat Babylonwhere instead of the descendants of Noah’s three sons where Japheth was to go northwest, Ham southwest, and Shem east, they all went to Babylonin modern day and built a city and intermingled their seed? Where else but the United States of America do we have a melting pot where again the descendants of Japheth, Ham, and Shem have come together with a common language, a common currency, and a common government? Where else have the merchants of the earth become rich upon our shores? This seems so clear to many that the Iraq United Statesis the prophetic spoken of in scripture that much can be found on the internet. But we can find much still just relying on the Bible. Dave, can you look up verses in the Bible with the word “ Babylon ”?” Babylon
Dave said, “You’ll never believe this. There are exactly 260 verses or 13 times 20 verses in the Bible with the word “
”. Let’s see. The two main prophetic books are Daniel and Revelation. Now Daniel has the word Babylon in 15 verses. But these would be talking about the existing Babylon . However, Revelation has the word Babylon Babylonin 6 verses which would be talking about the prophetic . Let me look at them.” Babylon
And there followed another angel, saying,
is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication. Revelation 14:8 Babylon
And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great
came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath. Revelation 16:19 Babylon
And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY,
THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. Revelation 17:5 BABYLON
And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird. Revelation 18:2
Standing afar off for the fear of her torment, saying, Alas, alas that great city
, that mighty city! for in one hour is thy judgment come. Revelation 18:10 Babylon
And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city
be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all. Revelation 18:21 Babylon
“Wow”, said Dave. “There is a lot in Revelation about prophetic
. There are a lot of details of the merchants of the world selling to Babylon Babylonand growing rich off of selling to .” Babylon
And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for no man buyeth their merchandise any more: Revelation 18:11
“You know,” said Dave, “I don’t know of any other place on earth that is better described here than the
. Okay, looks like we need to look at the word United States to see if it divides evenly into 13. Although I’m starting to come under conviction and am afraid I don’t want to know the answer.” Babylon
“Sometimes medicine doesn’t taste good,” said Evelyn, “but it’s good for you in the long run.”
“You’re right,” said Dave. “Here goes. We have
which comes to 845, which is 5 times 13 times 13.” Babylon
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